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Monday, November 07, 2005

The Mike Way

In comment to my November 4 post titled "Blinded by the Right," Mike posted a comment containing this paragraph:
Jesus would not condone torture. Neither do I. However, what defines torture? In my mind, doing irreversible bodily harm is torture. Making someone "feel" like they are drowning is not torture. Making someone "think" we are going to kill their family is not torture. Putting a gun to their head and telling them cough up the information or die, as long as you don't pull the trigger, is not torture. Forcing them to strip naked and have women laugh at them is not torture. All of these things can be reversed. They are temporary conditions.
Here is a man who not only claims to be a Christian, but actually posts in his blog The Deep Freeze a weekly prayer to his God, the Father of his Savior, Jesus Christ. Yet somehow, Mike seems to be implying that his Lord Jesus wouldn't have any problem understanding America's need to terrorize, demean, demoralize, disgrace, violate, and in any other way torture those we perceive at the moment to be our enemy, as long as we don't do any permanent harm to our enemy's body. Wow, huh? Wow...
Presumably Mike understands The Golden Rule so he understands that whatever we feel we have the right to do to our enemy, we give our enemy assurance that we expect the same in return from them.
Is it any wonder that I have a problem with right-wing Christianity? Mike thinks I just have an anger problem. No, Mike. I have a problem with your immoral religion.


Blogger Mike said...

Well Bill, you have once again proven you have absolutely no class. Dragging my personal prayer about my deceased grandmother into your hate filled venomous rant. Have you no shame? Is there any lower you can go? This is not about politics anymore. This is just about you being an asshole.

I believe Jesus Christ walked this earth 2000 years ago. I believe He was the son of God. I pray to him and beg for my salvation. You should do the same. But instead you attack Christ. You said it yourself: "I have a problem with your immoral religion." But hey, I'm sure you know what you're doing. I'm sure a lifetime of attacking Christ's church will get you into Heaven. If you don't believe in Heaven, even better. You won't be disappointed with eternal damnation.

6:19 PM, November 08, 2005  
Blogger Bill said...

Mike, I'm not the one who posted that about your grandmother. You are.
You know, when I see your "Weekly Prayer," I'm reminded of a passage in the Bible, Matthew 6:5 and 6:6

6:5 "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.
6:6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.

6:30 PM, November 08, 2005  

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